Has Oil Based Gloss Had its Day? What are the Alternatives?
We all know that oil-based gloss goes yellow very quickly nowadays, especially when used internally. We asked Professionals from The Decorators Forum how they work around the problem. Do they use alternative products? Has oil-based gloss had its day?
Used to be an oil-based guy, but now the waterbased technology has moved forward so it is just a good as oil-based, plus it quicker to use
Rental property I look after. woodwork done with allcoat waterbased gloss 2 years ago. If it was oil based how bad would it be??
Has to be oil because it’s harder wearing. Was at a job recently where a painter had used waterbased. The paint was coming of the door
Mostly Satin work these days. Johnstone’s aqua all day long. Love it. Nice sheen and dries quick. Use it now with floetrol. (If the customer pays for it) Using it today in my own home.
I use water based on mostly all my domestic work but still use oil on all my rental work.
For me no-brainer oil based
I always use Dulux trade white oil under coat and gloss and seems to stay white. I’m using the Dulux trade oil base satinwood a lot and that stay white too.
I do about 3 or 4 full rental properties a month for an estate agent on top of normal workload. I’ve taken to fast flow for most work but can’t see past oil-based satin on the rentals. It’s just the way it is.
Not much gloss nowadays, usually satinwood
I generally always use Dulux oil-based undercoat and gloss. Or even their satinwood. Never have a problem with it.
Mostly use oil-based eggshell or satinwood. It’s too good to drop.
Still oil based for me, haven’t found a waterbased system that works as well yet. A lot has to do with profit margins being tight and not having that little extra time to experiment. Agree with other comments about most people wanting satin
Can’t better the shine on oil-based gloss, just a shame it stinks so much
Gloss yellows quicker by far than satin
Some great water-based products on the market.
I was a stickler for oil based as I used it through my apprenticeship and beyond back in the 80’s
I tried water-based gloss around 7 years ago and wasn’t impressed. A few years later tried again with johnstone’s Aqua systems, using the specified Aqua undercoat and thought it was pretty good. More recently tried F&B then now using Tikkurila. I learned that the application techniques are different from oil based. As of last month, I now use no oil-based paint apart from floor varnish.
In my opinion I use water based because
1/ no thinners apart from water
2/ No strong odours for us or customer.
3/ washing equipment is easier
4/ extended durability (10-20) for some
5/ better eco credentials
6/ easier application
7/ easier clean up
I’ve only ever known WB so for me it’s a no brainier.
I think some guys who have been in oil-based for years struggle with relearning a new product and technique.
I use it as I like using it. However, it does yellow fast nowadays
I give the customer the choice and tell them the pros and cons
Residential I’ll use waterbased. Commercial/rental I’ll use oil based
Oil-based every time
I have stopped with oil inside because all my customers want white longer lasting…an am winning 90% of my jobs for that reason… 👍
I’ll use oil if it’s not white. Tried a lot of waterbased paints recently, Scuff-x is by far the best I’ve tried. Johnstone’s Aqua is sticky. Helmi is good but coverage isn’t the best. Caparol Aqua PU leaves a lovely finish but is very loose and must watch the runs. Will carry on using both depending on what the job is although my oil brushes have all gone hard now as not used them for months.
Use oil on 2 jobs internally in the past 8 years. Otherwise everything is water based. Customers love the lack of smell 😉
Oil based for me if it yellows then get called back for more work lovely jubly
Dulux trade oil-based satinwood for me. Went back to a job a few weeks ago to do another room. 2 years on and the woodwork still looks fresh
I’ve heard the Dulux diamond water-based satin is decent stuff. But I don’t fancy changing my system, considering I’ve never had a problem with oil 🤔
I’m going to do a test. I’m going to paint half at door at my house in oil based and half in water based and see what happens
Crown waterbased fast flow for me, love the stuff!! I’ve only ever had one problem and that was a dodgy batch that they replaced and refunded. Apart from that, spot on stuff, love it. Haven’t used oil based for about three years now.
I still use a lot of oil but starting to get into waterbased. I used the Dulux undercoat and gloss, it was quite impressive.
Only really recommend waterbased gloss for interiors now, After I went back to a huge staircase, I had done 3 months earlier & it had already started yellowing. I was mortified but luckily the client had supplied the paint.
Still use oil-based Satinwood though, it stays white a good long while still.
I chop and change. I prefer to use oil but will use waterbased if there is lack of or no natural light.
I don’t use water or oil-based gloss. I tend to go with oil-based satinwood instead